Jonny B says (4:44 PM):
fucken portugese
cheats
geekyguy says (4:44 PM):
stoopid fuckin' Rooney. punk cunt.
geekyguy says (4:45 PM):
he let his team/country down
if the kits were switched you'd be thrilled at England's win
Jonny B says (4:45 PM):
i was pretty pissed (drunk) when i seen that so didnt think it waas too bad. we were better though
geekyguy says (4:46 PM):
after he was dismissed England raised their game, for sure
oh, and hooray for Canada, eh?
Owen Hargreaves
Jonny B says (4:47 PM):
brit parents - not like greg rusedski at all
geekyguy says (4:48 PM):
scored your only penalty, national hero no doubt
Jonny B says (4:53 PM):
there's no other feeling like your team going out the world cup
Jonny B says (4:54 PM):
deflated
geekyguy says (4:54 PM):
screw you
you made the quarters
you played like shite the entire tourney
geekyguy says (4:55 PM):
Cote d'Ivorie played much better but drew a shitty group
Jonny B says (4:55 PM):
best defence in the world cup
we would prss on cote d'ivoire
geekyguy says (4:58 PM):
I enjoyed their Netherlands game immensely
this WC I became a fan
Jonny B says (4:58 PM):
netehrlands horrifically over-rated.
geekyguy says (4:58 PM):
in fact, I'll be following to see how Rooney and Ronaldo co-exist in Man
geekyguy says (4:59 PM):
not as much as England, bitch
Jonny B says (4:59 PM):
ronaldo, fucking cheat, will be leaving, guaranteed
geekyguy says (4:59 PM):
England never played right, it was one lucky mis-step after another that allowed them to advance
Jonny B says (4:59 PM):
england are always a big target at sporting events. its the empire thing. big targets.
geekyguy says (5:00 PM):
if he did the same thing but was wearing an England kit you wouldn't say thta
Jonny B says (5:00 PM):
guaranteed i would. the english game is the most honest in world football, fact. If Ronaldo did that and he was english, the press would fucken hound him.
geekyguy says (5:01 PM):
hmmm, the English did seem to fall/dive less than other teams
Jonny B says (5:01 PM):
no 'hmmm' about it, the english sporting mentality despises cheat. national stereotypes and all that
geekyguy says (5:02 PM):
is the diving and prima-donna-ing around really cheating when everyone does it?
Jonny B says (5:03 PM):
yep
geekyguy says (5:03 PM):
seems to be a part of the game, at least from what I have seen and accepted
good to hear
Jonny B says (5:03 PM):
thats why the sport is massively degraded and sepp blatter lacks a backbone
geekyguy says (5:03 PM):
the American sensibilities would say, no blood, no foul
geekyguy says (5:04 PM):
actually, for the most part the ref did a good job of maintaining order without throwing cards about. unlike the Russian
Jonny B says (5:04 PM):
Why are the English so poor at penalty shoot-out?
Good question. Our record now stands at played six, lost five.
geekyguy says (5:04 PM):
is Lennon really that bad?
I think the kid is great
and only 19
Jonny B says (5:05 PM):
Thats how i see the game though; the russian was right to show those cards. those were the 2 dirtiest teams in the world cup squaring off
geekyguy says (5:05 PM):
he really changed teh tempo when he subbed in for Becks
Jonny B says (5:05 PM):
shouldve been in from the start of course.
geekyguy says (5:05 PM):
but this ref maintained order without all the cards and the way they affect future matches
Jonny B says (5:06 PM):
this match didnt need all those cards. except ronaldo shoul;d be retrospectively hung drawn and quartered
geekyguy says (5:08 PM):
retro?
hater
Jonny B says (5:08 PM):
fucken stirrin up cheat
geekyguy says (5:08 PM):
England only began to play well after Rooney was dismissed for being a punk
Jonny B says (5:09 PM):
http://sports.yahoo.com/sow/news?slug=reu-worldjersey&prov=reuters&type=lgns
geekyguy says (5:09 PM):
http://www.worldcup365.com/story/0,16726,8501_1311220,00.html
Jonny B says (5:09 PM):
Portugal....cheating pretty boys
I can't watch this anymore......I swear to God there are 11 Snipers on the roof of the stadium shooting the pricks.

I hope they lose.....they are the reason Football will always be second to rugby in entertaining watches.....

geekyguy says (5:09 PM):
trade you
Jonny B says (5:10 PM):
no one in the premiership likes that twat ronaldo... and that was before.... he better sort hinself a transfer, and quick
geekyguy says (5:13 PM):
pretty amazing that an island, (or two), of 90,000 can't see fit to rule itself
read my link? tell me Rooney isn't a hotheaded cunt
Jonny B says (5:14 PM):
english / portugese communities are at odds. something to do witht he ostentatious way that portugese guys celebrate.
geekyguy says (5:14 PM):
like the Brits don't when they win, just hating on the other guy
Jonny B says (5:14 PM):
eh?
Jonny B says (5:15 PM):
drawing on what for that sweeping generalisation?
geekyguy says (5:15 PM):
hooliganism is a Brit invention . . .
geekyguy says (5:16 PM):
look, I haven't really a clue what I'm talking about, I thought the game was enjoyable, that England rose to the challenge of being shorthanded but that the better team one
England has been shite the entire tourney and it finally caught up with them
Jonny B says (5:16 PM):
hooliganism is a pretty tag applied by continental european teams to emphasise the geographical seperateness of britain as an island nation.....
geekyguy says (5:17 PM):
there is always some truth to generalizations, that is how they come about
just sayin'
Jonny B says (5:17 PM):
the 'wost' football violence occurs in germany, spain and italy - several deaths a year in italy and turkey, in spain a pigs head was thrown at a player at a corner kick, and in spain and germany they still make monkey noises at black players - hear about that?
Jonny B says (5:18 PM):
again, brits an easy target....
geekyguy says (5:18 PM):
yeah, I have heard about that
geekyguy says (5:19 PM):
all you are doing is levelling the field and saying that Brits are no worse than others
still a pig pile group to be in
Jonny B says (5:19 PM):
not at all, im saying that theyre worse...
geekyguy says (5:19 PM):
again, I don't really know what I'm talking about . . .
Jonny B says (5:19 PM):
in lazio, a player made a fascist salute to which the crowd responded en masse - another atrocity absent from the british game
geekyguy says (5:20 PM):
it seemed that Rooney, with captain Becks out, let his team down
Jonny B says (5:20 PM):
becks shouldve been out from the start
he slows play down on the right flank
geekyguy says (5:20 PM):
Carvalho got a yellow later in the match, (111), and just turned and walked away. had Rooney done that England might still be in the tourney
he is a punk
Jonny B says (5:21 PM):
he'll learn.
geekyguy says (5:21 PM):
look, as the last group of native English speakers I would like to have seen England advance
meanwhile his learning curve cost England the match
Jonny B says (5:22 PM):
teh sending off still seems dubious, comparable to figos yellow crad for a headbutt in the netherlands game. these vagaries of luck happen and change the shape of world cups.
geekyguy says (5:22 PM):
Rooney looks like the kind of short twat that just looks for trouble, seems to act like it too
different ref, hard to compare
but agreed
geekyguy says (5:23 PM):
he should not have words, what does it ever really lead to?
take it like a man and play the game for ffs
geekyguy says (5:24 PM):
he started to cry, then shoved Ronaldo . . . what a bitch
Jonny B says (5:24 PM):
there is a suggestion that the red card was not for a stamp but for pushing ronaldo who had come in to complain to the ref, and then winked behind the refs back when he was sent off.. how can that not make any neutral angry about footballing ethics?
winked? The governing body should ban him til the next world cup
geekyguy says (5:24 PM):
because, Ronaldo's tactic helped his team, Rooney's did not
you have got to be kidding
Jonny B says (5:25 PM):
'tactics' - illegal gamesmanship that devalues sporting ideals

geekyguy says (5:25 PM):
Ronaldo was able to mentally defeat Rooney, good on him, I say
keep your head in the game, young jedi
dumbass
Jonny B says (5:25 PM):
surprised
geekyguy says (5:26 PM):
let your game talk for you
Jonny B says (5:26 PM):
agreed, dont run in and try to get another person sent off
geekyguy says (5:26 PM):
Rooney made it easy for Ronaldo/Portugal
geekyguy says (5:27 PM):
all Ronaldo had to do was stand there and a tiny angry Rooney lashed out at him. you can hope he'll learn from it but he won't when Ronaldo leaves Man, he will think it was because of him
Jonny B says (5:27 PM):
not arguing with that - just the gamesmanship that enveloped the incident
geekyguy says (5:28 PM):
hey, what was with Ashley "I'm not teh gay" Cole wearing red shoes?
Jonny B says (5:28 PM):
'There was no stamp, nor was he sent off for one. He stepped backwards but caught the player unintentionally. And the ref didn't think there was a stamp either - if you watch it, the ref signals a free-kick, but that's it - he goes to talk to Rooney and gets the card only after the "push". '
lotas of footballers have personalised boots.
geekyguy says (5:29 PM):
but he couldn't just take it, he had to argue/cry and then act like a child
geekyguy says (5:30 PM):
I wondered if it was significant of anything
I thought it odd that an injured Becks was consoling his mates, (Ferdinand wanted none of it), when he will be one of the biggest losers - it may have been his last chance
Jonny B says (5:30 PM):
he's a 20 year old who has been identified as a key player by an opposition team, and they have just taken an opportunity to cynically take him out the game - whats to wonder?
geekyguy says (5:31 PM):
the red shoes, I wondered about
geekyguy says (5:32 PM):
whatever way they take him out, (it could be argued he took himself out), short of injury or illegality is fair game
Jonny B says (5:32 PM):
if portugal meet italy in the final, it'll be the only world cup match that couldve taken place exclusively in a swimming pool - heres hoping its germany and france
geekyguy says (5:32 PM):
the brawl after the Germany match was cut short on CCTV
Argentina lost that when they lost their keeper
Jonny B says (5:33 PM):
All players have slumps. Fact. Lampard has let down himself, his teammates, his manager (who is at fault as well for his unjustified faith), his fellow professionals who voted for him as one of the world's top players (!), all non-English Chelsea fans who support their club's players internationally, his father, and his entire f**king Nation. Fact. I am absolutely gobsmacked
geekyguy says (5:34 PM):
hehe
gobsmacked = liquored?
Jonny B says (5:35 PM):
surpised x 1000
Jonny B says (5:37 PM):
Sven's last substitution will be remembered as "Aaron Lennon off, Jamie Carragher on in order to take a penalty, which he missed". A fitting end to Sven's England career.
geekyguy says (5:38 PM):
yeah, is Lennon so poor? I couldn't figure that
geekyguy says (5:41 PM):
Yogi Berra, a catcher and manager in Major League Baseball once said, "95% of this game is half mental, the other half is physical"
geekyguy says (5:42 PM):
Rooney couldn't stay in it mentally
Jonny B says (5:42 PM):
what did he say about balls out cheating?
geekyguy says (5:42 PM):
mental gamesmanship is not cheating
geekyguy says (5:44 PM):
you really honestly believe that Portugal, (no named player), played dirty and should be sanctioned?
Jonny B says (5:46 PM):
yup - they exemplify the cancerous corruption of false falls, ref influencing and achilles hacks that threatens to make the game akin to interpretive dance
snipers on the stadium roof
geekyguy says (5:47 PM):
then the refs need to be better educated to not fall for that crap . . . they played within the current system
Jonny B says (5:47 PM):
yup
refs have precarious existences though - iconic players who earn 150000 a weeks have much more sway
Jonny B says (5:48 PM):
cant treat them like petulant little children - even though it is largely true
geekyguy says (5:48 PM):
clearly not
also see, Don Quixote
Jonny B says (5:49 PM):
you dont get my point really. the rooney thing is obvious, in fact too obvious as he made the wrong call, but i mean such things as 'stars' like ronaldo running in like a snitch trying to influence the player and get him sent off. so see 'wrong tree, barking up the' and 'wrong end of, grabbing the stick'
geekyguy says (5:50 PM):
ok, so, I know you are Godsmacked or Coldplayed or whatever isle term you have for it but this to will pass
Ronaldo ran in, so what
Jonny B says (5:50 PM):
???
geekyguy says (5:51 PM):
he had as much right to be there as the crying Rooney, Rooney lost it and as a result gave the match to Portugal
Jonny B says (5:51 PM):
i though america had the fair play thing going on
geekyguy says (5:51 PM):
I was actually pretty impressed with the way England raised their game in teh absence of a player
it is fair play
geekyguy says (5:52 PM):
the game is physical but you also need to maintain yourself mentally enough to stay in the game
Jonny B says (5:52 PM):
10 men tend to play better in light of injustice. common football practice
geekyguy says (5:52 PM):
Rooney was a petulant punk that let himself be taken out of the match
Jonny B says (5:53 PM):
the difference is clearly that you see the rooney thing as an impulsive mental abberation on his part, while discounting the Ronaldo thing. fair enough. different strokes.
geekyguy says (5:53 PM):
he isn't mentally strong enough, I wouldn't tie my title hopes to him until he shows some personal growth
abberaration? no, he has a history of mental gaffes - http://www.worldcup365.com/story/0,16726,8501_1311220,00.html
Jonny B says (5:54 PM):
i realise - i ment a mental abberation within the course of a 90 minute match, thought you could accept this logic, but seemed like you wanted to get an LA Law style riposte in...
Jonny B says (5:55 PM):
wink and shhhhhh - thats what the world will take from that match
geekyguy says (5:55 PM):
no. I'm only suggesting that had Rooney taken his scolding, (that is all it was going to be), and ignored the presence of Ronaldo the match may have had a different outcome
Jonny B says (5:56 PM):
ive never seen someone sent off for a chest shove
geekyguy says (5:57 PM):
and I'm new enough to the sport to not suggest I know better but only to say that he should not have pushed him
you just told me how the English play a good fair game as gentleman. Rooney was not
Be above it, young man
I really need to get
Jonny B says (5:58 PM):
right. Im reading the sunday papers forensics right now. have a good one.
Jonny B says (6:00 PM):
England had failed before and perhaps were destined to fail again. 'Ever tried,' wrote Samuel Beckett. 'Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.'

glorious failures. but failures. we ruined that stereotype by winning the rugby world cup and the ashes though